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the bigger problem is that this occupation is not egypt's fault. it is israel's fault. and it's unreasonable to expect egypt or turkey or any other country to put pressure on palestinians. what should be done instead is quite the opposite. the united states is the largest funder of israel. the united states gives $3 billion a year in u.s. taxpayer money to israel in addition to weapons, in addition to political support. if we're going to be serious about moving forward, the role has to come from the united states, pressure from the united states. it's not enough to demand that it come from egypt. >> diana buttu, many thanks for your time. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >>> back in the u.s., get ou of the way because black friday is here. people spend long hours in line to score major deals this morning. >> it's affordable right now even if you have to be out here for two days to get it. >> it saves a lot of money like a few hundred dollars. >> cnbc's courtney reagan is in dayton, ohio. how is it going so far out there? >> reporter: you know, so far it looks pretty go
the bigger problem is that this occupation is not egypt's fault. it is israel's fault. and it's unreasonable to expect egypt or turkey or any other country to put pressure on palestinians. what should be done instead is quite the opposite. the united states is the largest funder of israel. the united states gives $3 billion a year in u.s. taxpayer money to israel in addition to weapons, in addition to political support. if we're going to be serious about moving forward, the role has to come...
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>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have an interest to make sure that mass and the other extremists in gaza don't stir up trouble. don't cause friction. don't create violence. and i think we and the egyptians work together on keeping the peace and on trying to make sure the terrorists don't dictate the agenda. >> mark, suggestions that this past eight, nine days was a practice run, if you will, for any faw tour confrontation, testing, identifying hamas' capabilities, is that true enough? and if so, what did you learn? >> well, first of all, we know the rockets that were fired at tel aviv and jer
>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have...
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. >>> breaking news from egypt. thousands of protesters gathered in tahrir square. 6:15 at night there, many have been chanting step down in reaction to the decree issue by egypt's new president that grants him absolute power. the sixth straight day of protest after morsi issued his decree last thursday. earlier today, the protest turning violent on a street near tahrir square. at least three protesters have been killed since the weekend. nbc live from cairo. and the crowd in tahrir square has been growing, building over the past hours. explain what we're seeing now. >> reporter: well, behind me, probably tens of thousands of egyptians have gathered, been here since the early hours of the morning. in fact, some have been camped out for the past six days. many songs, chants, slogans reminiscent of two years ago, calling on the same things they did two years ago, which is for the president of egypt to step down. they've changed the name, obviously, to reflect egypt's new islamist president. you mentioned that incident
. >>> breaking news from egypt. thousands of protesters gathered in tahrir square. 6:15 at night there, many have been chanting step down in reaction to the decree issue by egypt's new president that grants him absolute power. the sixth straight day of protest after morsi issued his decree last thursday. earlier today, the protest turning violent on a street near tahrir square. at least three protesters have been killed since the weekend. nbc live from cairo. and the crowd in tahrir...
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. >>> and now but turn to the middle east with talks scheduled in egypt on a possible cease fire. but hamas militants in gaza are still firing rockets into israel, and the palestinian death toll from israeli attacks increases. nbc's stephanie gosk is live this morning in tel aviv for us. stephanie, what can you tell us? >> reporter: good morning, veronica. the talks are continuing on a cease fire. as they continue, the violence over the weekend and today has been intense. israeli forces have broadened their tactics to include hitting residences of hamas leaders. we've seen a large number of casualties. the deadliest attack was when a two story residential building was hit. ten people from a family were killed. this was from a hamas rocket launcher. there's no reason that he was hit but there's anger. from gaza we are getting a continued barrage of rockets here in israel, 16 since midnight. one of those rockets hit a school. that school suffered damage but there was no one injured in the attack. veronica? >> stephanie gosk in tel aviv this morning. we appreciate it. thank you very
. >>> and now but turn to the middle east with talks scheduled in egypt on a possible cease fire. but hamas militants in gaza are still firing rockets into israel, and the palestinian death toll from israeli attacks increases. nbc's stephanie gosk is live this morning in tel aviv for us. stephanie, what can you tell us? >> reporter: good morning, veronica. the talks are continuing on a cease fire. as they continue, the violence over the weekend and today has been intense. israeli...
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i think the people that we're watching right now is egypt and egypt's response to all of this. they are a gigantic country that have been a lynchpin of peace in the entire region, and they have a new mohammed muslim brotherhood, brand-new democratically elected but untested government. morsi wants to be as a statesman in the region, but he hasn't faced these crises before. >> thank you very much. we'll talk with you in the next few days on this especially. we have breaking news. moments ago eric holder announced a historic fine against bp for its role in the largest oil spill in our nation's history. bp will pay $4.5 billion for the deadly disaster in the gulf of mexico. the company will also plead guilty to a dozen felony charges including misconduct for the death of the 11 men who died in that explosion that triggered the oil spill. two employees also face manslaughter charges, and just moments ago, attorney general holder says this case is far from over. >> i want to be really absolutely clear that today's resolution does not, does not mark the end of our efforts. in fact, o
i think the people that we're watching right now is egypt and egypt's response to all of this. they are a gigantic country that have been a lynchpin of peace in the entire region, and they have a new mohammed muslim brotherhood, brand-new democratically elected but untested government. morsi wants to be as a statesman in the region, but he hasn't faced these crises before. >> thank you very much. we'll talk with you in the next few days on this especially. we have breaking news. moments...
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there's egypt, gaza, syria, iran. there's a president's second term that's got to be dominated by this region. >> i think so. it's the middle east, so there's good news and bad news. the good news is that the obama administration did an excellent job of supporting israel all through this. made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad news is the islamists are in control. in the palestinian areas with hamas and certainly in control in egypt. and there's going to be no peace as long as they are there in control, and u.s. policy has got to be a long, gradual process of trying to build up the non-islamists in the arab world, including in iran, across the region. >> that frames it. we'll hear more from you in the roundtable. >>> now let me turn to carl levin, chairman of course of the armed services committee in the senate. senator, to egypt. how concerned are you? is
there's egypt, gaza, syria, iran. there's a president's second term that's got to be dominated by this region. >> i think so. it's the middle east, so there's good news and bad news. the good news is that the obama administration did an excellent job of supporting israel all through this. made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad...
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, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we are. gaza is still very much a war zone atmosphere. although, as you mentioned, it is 9:00 local time so the cease-fire is officially in effect and hearing drones and up to the last minute as you noted but well before that, several minutes before that, a series of explosions as well as a series of rockets coming out of gaza in to southern israel and the question is whether it sticks for the rest of the night. >> obviously, everyone is watching very closely, certainly, in that region and around the world. the people living with
, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we...
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the president was heavily involved to making calls to egypt and israel. mahmoud abbas even took middle of the night phone calls and he dispatched secretary of state hillary clinton to close the cease-fire deal, which she did with shuttle diplomacy between the west bank and cairo. joining me is republican strategist boris epstein. richard, i'll begin with you, richard graham has been a hard critic of president obama. they are now hailing the cease-fire deal. they released a statement yesterday praising prime minister benjamin netanyahu for reaching the truce. however, did you notice no mention of president obama or secretary clinton? what do you make of that? >> honestly, that statement was sad and pathetic they cannot take off the partisan blinders at a time like this. and i think what it does is it hurts their credibility going forward in the international stage. they were ones very much on susan rice's back about benghazi and the possibility of her being secretary of state. but they have showed themselves being totally incapable of displaying any object
the president was heavily involved to making calls to egypt and israel. mahmoud abbas even took middle of the night phone calls and he dispatched secretary of state hillary clinton to close the cease-fire deal, which she did with shuttle diplomacy between the west bank and cairo. joining me is republican strategist boris epstein. richard, i'll begin with you, richard graham has been a hard critic of president obama. they are now hailing the cease-fire deal. they released a statement yesterday...
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but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting that his new powers are for the good ofu issued a statement moments ago saying in part, quote, we call for calm and encourage all parties to work together and call for all egyptians to resolve their differences over these important issues peacefully and through democratic dialogue. jim maceda will join us coming up in 20 minutes right here. >>> turning from egypt now to the border between israel and gaza where a two-day cease fire is already being tested. israeli troops shot and killed a 20-year-old man on the gaza side of the line today. the firs
but we start this hour with breaking news in egypt. you're looking at live pictures of tahrir square in cairo after the new egyptian president morsi gave himself sweeping new powers today. tahrir square also the heart of last year's uprising. demonstrators filled the streets of alexandria later today. morsi's new powers put his own decisions above all legal challenges until a new egyptian parliament is elected. despite the protests, morsi moving ahead with his plans at the same time insisting...
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now followed up by armed attack against egypt. the united states was not consulted in any way about any phase of these actions. nor were we informed of them in advance. >> president eisenhower sounding kind of mad, right? the u.s. had not been informed about the attack ahead of time. because ike had made clear to our allies, to england specifically, that he didn't want another big multi-country conflict in the world. he'd worked with the u.n. to keep that attack from happening. he had made his intentions clear and then england and france just went behind his back and did it anyway and they did it a week before he was facing re-election. >> president dwight d. eisenhower is re-elected to the highest office in the land as world peace faces the greatest crisis since the second world war. the electoral victory comes after a tumultuous campaign in which the major, domestic and foreign policies of this administration were put sharply an issue. >> especially that last week. dwight eisenhower ultimately pressured our allies to end that wa
now followed up by armed attack against egypt. the united states was not consulted in any way about any phase of these actions. nor were we informed of them in advance. >> president eisenhower sounding kind of mad, right? the u.s. had not been informed about the attack ahead of time. because ike had made clear to our allies, to england specifically, that he didn't want another big multi-country conflict in the world. he'd worked with the u.n. to keep that attack from happening. he had...
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the truce was brokered by egypt and ended eight days of fighting. the big question is, will it last. we have reporters throughout the region for you. martin fletcher is in tel aviv, and jim is in cairo. but we begin in gaza. this truce was marked by a huge celebration there in gaza today. tell us about it. >> that's true. in fact, tens of thousands of palestinians showed up in gaza city. and actually in cities all across the gaza strip to hear from various leaders of all of the palestinian factions. the biggest one was by far and large in gaza city. some leaders we haven't heard in the past eight days, many in hiding, came out today to address the thousands of people who gathered. they're portraying this and describing this as a victory. they say for the first time hamas has not only defeated israel, but has also shown the world what they're about against a back drop of changes taking place all across the arab world. they also sent a message to the united states saying that they should, the united states should support the palestinian people and not
the truce was brokered by egypt and ended eight days of fighting. the big question is, will it last. we have reporters throughout the region for you. martin fletcher is in tel aviv, and jim is in cairo. but we begin in gaza. this truce was marked by a huge celebration there in gaza today. tell us about it. >> that's true. in fact, tens of thousands of palestinians showed up in gaza city. and actually in cities all across the gaza strip to hear from various leaders of all of the...
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all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the most important thing for secretary clinton is to make sure that the commitments that are being made are quite clear. there's no misunderstandings, and it's very important to reinforce those commitments so that the ceasefire that takes hold doesn't turn out just to be a lull before the resumption of fighting. i think that's the most important thing. secondly, i think it's very important that the secretary will not only be seeing prime minister netanyahu and president morsi but also she is going to see president abbas in ramallah. he's been the ac
all the investment egypt would need. so he's putting egypt's needs first and foremost and that suggests that actually the economic imperfect it tiff is trumping the ideological imperatives and that's actually a positive sign for the future. >> with hillary clinton going to the region and with these positive signs that morsi has already put out there and we're hearing different things from israeli radio as well as from al jazeera, what does that signal to you? >> well, i think the...
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egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks in this country suspected that he would. >> yeah. and you can bet that the white house is watching that especially closely. i mean the last few days as we just said the president spoke repeatedly with president morsi. it seemed like they were having the start of a good relationship that led to a cease-fire in gaza. that is a good thing from the point of view of the united states. and then the timing of this new announcement is certainly interesting and perhaps questionable because after developing that relationship after getting some international kudos for what he did, he made this move.
egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks...
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the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was nodding and winking at the israelis and encouraged them to go in and basically finish hamas. obviously, we have a very different egyptian government this time. israel also has the experience of having gone into gaza, knows it's easier to get into gaza than it is to get out. by the same token, there's a reality. israel is not going to accept a situation where a major part of its population has to be living in shelters. one of the reasons israel is acting right now is they're basically sending the message to hamas that if you are not going to re-establish calm, and in a way where we don't have to face the prospe
the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was...
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. >> and there is the concern of how egypt will react. what is the word there on how they are reacting? >> well, we already heard from egypt's president and the foreign minister. they have condemned the emergency meeting in the arab league to explore popular options. egypt says it will open the border with gaza to completely allow all wounded and injured and anybody else who wants to get out. we are getting initial reports that the prime minister may be leading a high delegation visit tomorrow. that would be unprecedented given the security situation here. >> a ayman, thank you so much. appreciate it. from the middle east to back home. let's take a look at what is happening this hour. the president will land in new york city within the next 30 minutes, where he will tour the damage done by superstorm sandy. he will be greeted by andrew cuomo and governor bloomberg. and there are two closed door meetings on the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. one is taking place with the house intelligence committee and the the other with
. >> and there is the concern of how egypt will react. what is the word there on how they are reacting? >> well, we already heard from egypt's president and the foreign minister. they have condemned the emergency meeting in the arab league to explore popular options. egypt says it will open the border with gaza to completely allow all wounded and injured and anybody else who wants to get out. we are getting initial reports that the prime minister may be leading a high delegation...
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the president says you have to take those measures because egypt's judiciary is full of remnants of the old regime and pro-mubarak-appointed judges. that's why according to him there's a slow transition to democracy. the other opponents of this decree are saying that president morsi is doing nothing than simply grabbing more power and reverting the country to dictatorship. human rights organizations have expressed great concern. there was, however, some indication the situation can be resolved politically. late last night president morsi met with the country's top judges, and they agreed to narrowly define the scope of how he uses this decree. but on the streets today, millions are expected, at least tens of thousands are expected to show up in tahrir square, a protest has been canceled to avoid any possible clashes. lynn? >> ayman live for us in cairo, thank you so much. >>> well, back here at home, new york governor andrew cuomo calls superstorm sandy more impactful than hurricane katrina. now both new york and new jersey are asking for a combined total of more than $71 billion in fed
the president says you have to take those measures because egypt's judiciary is full of remnants of the old regime and pro-mubarak-appointed judges. that's why according to him there's a slow transition to democracy. the other opponents of this decree are saying that president morsi is doing nothing than simply grabbing more power and reverting the country to dictatorship. human rights organizations have expressed great concern. there was, however, some indication the situation can be resolved...
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domestic stability inside egypt is paramount for egypt to play the role that it can play in the region. when we saw in the past week egypt rise to the forefront of mediating between israel and the palestinian factions, it was because egypt at that particular point was not -- president morrissey's hand to put leverage on them. it's a political organization from which mohammed morsi comes from. stability will have long term and regional implications for all of the issues. but in terms of immediate truce, right now it is about what's happening on the ground be in gaza and right now that is not necessarily directly linked. >> all right, everyone. we were listening there to nbc's ayman and we're taking satellite hits. this conflict is raising a question concerning security in the middle east. the role iran played with arming hamas and its own stand offwith israel. joining me is dennis ross of the washington institute for institutional policy. dennis, welcome. let's talk about the role that iran played in this conflict over the last eight, nine days. iron that out for me. >> i think we have
domestic stability inside egypt is paramount for egypt to play the role that it can play in the region. when we saw in the past week egypt rise to the forefront of mediating between israel and the palestinian factions, it was because egypt at that particular point was not -- president morrissey's hand to put leverage on them. it's a political organization from which mohammed morsi comes from. stability will have long term and regional implications for all of the issues. but in terms of...
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we have morsi with just basically still the new head of egypt. the muslim brotherhood does not like or respect israel at all. how do these other pieces, these leaders, new leader and leader facing election soon, factor into the whole situation? >> mercy is in a particularly vulnerable situation here. when mubarak was heading egypt, he could ignore the arab streak and the protests against israeli attacks in gaza. morsi can't do that. he's also the head of the muslim brotherhood, and hamas is a branch of muslim brotherhood. this is a very complicating factor. i mean, we should say, though, that i think morsi or anyone else in egypt is looking to start a war with the israelis. they're going to have to much more cognizant of what's going on and responsive to, again, i think a sentiment aamong the arab is that the israeli actions are unjustified. as far as netanyahu is concerned and the upcoming election, look, he's playing to a domestic constituency. every time the israelis go into gaza, they do limited damage to hamas and other limited damage to oth
we have morsi with just basically still the new head of egypt. the muslim brotherhood does not like or respect israel at all. how do these other pieces, these leaders, new leader and leader facing election soon, factor into the whole situation? >> mercy is in a particularly vulnerable situation here. when mubarak was heading egypt, he could ignore the arab streak and the protests against israeli attacks in gaza. morsi can't do that. he's also the head of the muslim brotherhood, and hamas...
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last week's egypt prime minister visited with them and promised egypt's support and promised their actions would not go unnoticed. palestinian leaders have upped their demands in negotiations calling for the end of israel's five-year blockade on gaza and also calling for a pledge by israel not to fire on the territory again and an international deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to bring out a permanent truce. >> the united states of america has got to push as hard as we can to resolve this israeli/palestinian issue. so many events hinge on making that process go forward. find someone even as high ranking, frankly, as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker, but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east. >>> any moment now president obama is set t
last week's egypt prime minister visited with them and promised egypt's support and promised their actions would not go unnoticed. palestinian leaders have upped their demands in negotiations calling for the end of israel's five-year blockade on gaza and also calling for a pledge by israel not to fire on the territory again and an international deal ensuring that israel would keep its word. but back in the united states senator john mccain called for the u.s. to offer its own mediator to try to...
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tension between israel and egypt's new islamist government has increased since the attacks with egypt recalling its ambassador to israel in protest. richard haass, also an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council last night. sift through this for us. how big is this? how significant is this in the middle east right now? >> well, it's big for lots of reasons, because it's not happening in isolation. one is you have the largest military clashes between israel and hamas in, what, four year now, and it's not going to stop. at times it doesn't matter in the middle east exactly why things begin. over the last few months there have been hundreds of rocket attacks, now this, then retaliation. it just happens. second of all, it's happening in the absence of anything political. there's no dialogue going on whatsoever between israelis and palestinians. this can't substitute for this. thirdly, egyptians withdrew their ambassador. since 1967 and really since not long after that when sadat, the relationship has been peaceful. it's been codified by treaty. it is the basis of peace in the middl
tension between israel and egypt's new islamist government has increased since the attacks with egypt recalling its ambassador to israel in protest. richard haass, also an emergency meeting of the u.n. security council last night. sift through this for us. how big is this? how significant is this in the middle east right now? >> well, it's big for lots of reasons, because it's not happening in isolation. one is you have the largest military clashes between israel and hamas in, what, four...
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egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months, perhaps less than a month after he had secret service protection and entourage also we have seen that he's pumping gas, learning how to pump gas i guess or we'll assume he knew how to pump gas, but we've had a number of pictures of him at disney land on the roller coaster with his boys. >> look -- >> who -- sometimes people can lose a presidential election and continue to be a really phenomenal force in their party and in politics. i don't think this is going to be the case with mitt romney. he lost this election as you sa
egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months,...
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when you look at nations in transition like afghanistan and egypt, people there say they're concerned more about continuity and aid. they have worries about what getting to know a new administration would mean for them. in europe, it's about economic growth. in fact, a poll was done across europe showed 75% of europeans would choose obama, in places like germany, 92%. if you look at israel, say, the landslide there if the election happened there would be romney's. there's been a lot of support for him after he visited and he's expressed vocal support for any potential israeli action against iran's nuclear facilities. veroni veronica? >> interesting. michelle kosinski, we appreciate it. >>> msnbc will have special edesk day coverage throughout the day tomorrow. we'll bring you the best primetime coverage at 6:00 eastern with rachel maddow and chris matthews. >>> and now for a look at the weather and that nor'easter that's headed our way. nbc meteorologist bill karins is down in democracy plaza for us. he got the good assignment this morning. >> good monday morning. a beautiful scene do
when you look at nations in transition like afghanistan and egypt, people there say they're concerned more about continuity and aid. they have worries about what getting to know a new administration would mean for them. in europe, it's about economic growth. in fact, a poll was done across europe showed 75% of europeans would choose obama, in places like germany, 92%. if you look at israel, say, the landslide there if the election happened there would be romney's. there's been a lot of support...
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at the end of the day it will always come back to egypt for the simple fact egypt has leverage over political islamic movements like hamas and israel. it has a relationship with israel. it can sit on the table with both of the parties. turkey over the past several years since the incident where they tried to send aid to gaza and had their citizens killed has had strained relations. it false back in the lap of the egyptians. this is an important test. egypt seen itself as the center of the arab world for centuries. they take the palestinian cause at heart. they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo. that's been true for hundreds if not thousands of years. a
at the end of the day it will always come back to egypt for the simple fact egypt has leverage over political islamic movements like hamas and israel. it has a relationship with israel. it can sit on the table with both of the parties. turkey over the past several years since the incident where they tried to send aid to gaza and had their citizens killed has had strained relations. it false back in the lap of the egyptians. this is an important test. egypt seen itself as the center of the arab...
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they say they will complain to egypt. they will not take any further action. they are citing this as an example of how israel is not to be trusted to uphold the truth. >> that is one side. i'm going to bring you in, martin. what is the israeli military saying about the situation? >> reporter: well, the prime minister's office is saying they're examining what happened. the military says that there was about 300 palestinians approached the fence and that they we they were shouting slogans. one was shot. there were several locations along the length of the fence. they haven't said -- israelis have not yet said officially what they believe happened. they said they're investigating. the issue, of course, is that that no go area which was declared a no go area by israel several years ago specifically because there were so many incidents like this, they wanted to prevent be occasions where the palestinians approached the fence where terrorists were laying land mines along the fence, also shooting israeli's across the border. they were trying keep the 300 yard no go a
they say they will complain to egypt. they will not take any further action. they are citing this as an example of how israel is not to be trusted to uphold the truth. >> that is one side. i'm going to bring you in, martin. what is the israeli military saying about the situation? >> reporter: well, the prime minister's office is saying they're examining what happened. the military says that there was about 300 palestinians approached the fence and that they we they were shouting...
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and egypt's president morsi is promising action. mideast presidential adviser ambassador dennis ross will join me. democratic women on the hill are firing back on their assault of susan rice. congressman bass will join me about that. chris christie and cory booker gearing up for a battle. is what drives us to broadcast the world's biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's cars, nearly indestructible laptops, and the sustainable smart towns of the future. at panasonic, we're driven to make what matters most better. just another way we're engineering a better world for you. some people put everything intotheir name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by our friends and neighbors. and do our part for the businesses that do so much for us. on november 24th, let's get out and shop small. >>> hi, everybody. good morning. i'
and egypt's president morsi is promising action. mideast presidential adviser ambassador dennis ross will join me. democratic women on the hill are firing back on their assault of susan rice. congressman bass will join me about that. chris christie and cory booker gearing up for a battle. is what drives us to broadcast the world's biggest events in 3d, or live to your seat high above the atlantic ocean. it's what drives us to create eco-friendly race tracks, batteries that power tomorrow's...
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egypt's new government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of regional stability and peace. >> we start with nbc's jim macedo in cairo. who what are the details? >> reporter: well, steve, most importantly, starting at 2:00 p.m. as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try to resolve the key demands on both sides. of course, for hamas, the lifting of that 6-year-old blockade of gaza. for israel, it's stopping all the weapons smuggling. but neither will happen immediately. at least, however, they have agreed in principle to these demands and the need to work them out. you had a clip of
egypt's new government is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of regional stability and peace. >> we start with nbc's jim macedo in cairo. who what are the details? >> reporter: well, steve, most importantly, starting at 2:00 p.m. as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed...
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as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak, very much aligned with u.s. and israeli interests. he was willing to turn a blind eye to israeli aggressions as they described it in gaza so long as he could secure the support of the u.s. and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily
as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak,...
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what he's finding is in fact the new egypt is an egypt where people feel that their voices matter and that there's not going to be a new ruler. there's going to need to be a president who governs and he who governs is going to have to govern recognizing and respecting checks and balances. >> certainly democracy is a very slow process and certainly for a country that's never had it before. we'll be watching the this for a generation or more to come. but you mentioned the fact that morsi fell emboldened after brokering the deal between gaza and israel. as we speak of middle east peace, president mahmoud abbas met in new york with the deputy secretary of state william burns ahead of tomorrow's historic u.n. general assembly vote on palestinian statehood. the resolution, though, would upgrade the palestinian authority's u.n. status from observer to a nonmember observer state. it is expected to be approved. israel strongly opposes the bid. the person representing the u.s. will be ambassador susan rice who currently is facing a lot of heat over the statements she made about the benghazi att
what he's finding is in fact the new egypt is an egypt where people feel that their voices matter and that there's not going to be a new ruler. there's going to need to be a president who governs and he who governs is going to have to govern recognizing and respecting checks and balances. >> certainly democracy is a very slow process and certainly for a country that's never had it before. we'll be watching the this for a generation or more to come. but you mentioned the fact that morsi...
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on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i can't get quite in their heads. in that part of the world they're aware of the american political calendar, as everyone is, and there is a sort of freezing of decision making in this period leading up to an american election. let's face it, a president romney would have been a very different approach. >> and probably preferred by netanyahu. >> it's seen that way. paezble to that hamas is testing -- had waited to test until now. the truth is that the arab spring has many, many positive qualities for us in the west. the possibility that the people in that part of the world will be connected with their leadership.
on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i...
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good to see you. >> you too. >> egypt. now, perhaps morsi felt empowered by his role as a peacemaker on gaza, but he ran right into long-standing traditions. >> he did. he did. i think bear in mind a couple of things. number one, he felt that the role he played made him a central figure in the region as a whole. in mubarak's last few years, the fact was mubarak was increasingly on the sidelines, not playing a major role in the middle east. here's president morsi thinking he can play on the image they are a leader in the region and he can use that as a device to make a move internally. he made that move but i think it's a clear miscalculation because he took on the independents of the judiciary. it doesn't matter that. these were leaders who were holdovers from the mubarak regime, they still represented a symbol of independence. suddenly he was trying to remove all checks on his own power. >> so you're suggesting he's going to have to find a face-saving way to step back from this brink? >> i do think that there's a -- the b
good to see you. >> you too. >> egypt. now, perhaps morsi felt empowered by his role as a peacemaker on gaza, but he ran right into long-standing traditions. >> he did. he did. i think bear in mind a couple of things. number one, he felt that the role he played made him a central figure in the region as a whole. in mubarak's last few years, the fact was mubarak was increasingly on the sidelines, not playing a major role in the middle east. here's president morsi thinking he...
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what about the role of egypt here? isn't this a big test for a relatively new government brokering something? this is not a government that, you know, was a party to camp david or other accords, although they said they would uphold them. isn't this a stronger test? what does this tell us about the role they can play in this difficult conflict? >> well, i think as she said, egypt's willingness to assume responsibility to this is vitally important. now that said, obviously egypt will come to these, you know, next phase of negotiations with far more sympathy for the people of gaza than perhaps if that was a conversation that happened two years ago or three years ago with the government of hosni mubarak. i think part of this challenge will be how much can the united states push israel, which has a legitimate interest in the issue of weapons smuggling to gaza, but how can it find a way to achieve this right balance so that you can increase assistance to the people of gaza while meeting israel's legitimate security needs. th
what about the role of egypt here? isn't this a big test for a relatively new government brokering something? this is not a government that, you know, was a party to camp david or other accords, although they said they would uphold them. isn't this a stronger test? what does this tell us about the role they can play in this difficult conflict? >> well, i think as she said, egypt's willingness to assume responsibility to this is vitally important. now that said, obviously egypt will come...
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with benjamin netanyahu and then to ramallah to meet with palestinian leaders and finally to cairo, egypt. the president was up late last night talking to netanyahu and mohamed morrissey. this morning chuck asked ben rhodes whether clinton is going because talks are stuck or a diplomatic resolution is close at hand. >> she is going because we've been in discussions with these leaders and we want to carry those forward. and obviously the center of gravity for those discussions is in the region. i don't want to predict what the outcome of those discussions will be. we know how difficult the situation is, how charged the issue of gaza is. we've seen conflict there in the past. so this is a difficult challenge. but, again, it's worth the effort of leaders from the united states in the region and interfashionly. >> chuck joins us now from cambodia where he is traveling with the president. chuck, a lot of moving and fast moving parts here. what can you tell us? what's the latest? >> i can tell you what aides will say in answer it to that question off answer. certain things you can say on camera
with benjamin netanyahu and then to ramallah to meet with palestinian leaders and finally to cairo, egypt. the president was up late last night talking to netanyahu and mohamed morrissey. this morning chuck asked ben rhodes whether clinton is going because talks are stuck or a diplomatic resolution is close at hand. >> she is going because we've been in discussions with these leaders and we want to carry those forward. and obviously the center of gravity for those discussions is in the...
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why did he go to egypt? after ousting hosni mo bark, negotiations are going on as we speak and i hope we will reach something soon that will stop the violence and counter-violence. the whole world is working on trying to deescalate this conflict. the european union weighed in today as did russia. russia preparing a u.n. resolution calling for a cease fire. probably our closest ally abroad in matters of war and peace is britain, and they are taking the same line as president obama, although they are being even more direct about it. the foreign secretary saying that hamas bares responsibility for what's going on, but he warns that "a ground invasion of gaza would lose israel a lot of the international support they have in this situation." a ground invasion is more difficult for the international community to sympathize with or support. so the world, at least the world of the united states and our allies is pretty much speaking with one voice here. israel, stop the ground work thing. that's the message from the
why did he go to egypt? after ousting hosni mo bark, negotiations are going on as we speak and i hope we will reach something soon that will stop the violence and counter-violence. the whole world is working on trying to deescalate this conflict. the european union weighed in today as did russia. russia preparing a u.n. resolution calling for a cease fire. probably our closest ally abroad in matters of war and peace is britain, and they are taking the same line as president obama, although they...
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in august he sidelined egypt's military council and took their powers for himself, the legislative and constitutional assembly powers they had and the only check remaining on his power after that time was the judiciary and now he swept aside that check. he has consolidated all power for thims and asked the people to trust him and guide egypt through this transitional period. >> protesters want him to step down. what do you see happening here? >> looks like neither side is prepared to back down. you're right. they're not prepared to trust him. morsi is not some sort of reveered national figure that played a role in the revolution. he seems a very partisan guy that really has islamist interests at heart so the liberals see no other choice but to go out in the street and protest until morsi backs down and looks like now both sides are angling for a compromise. >> what can the west do? >> i think it is no mistake this is taking place after the gaza conflict. the movie mentioned last year took place after a big terrorist attack in the sinai so i think he is hoping he will get a free past be
in august he sidelined egypt's military council and took their powers for himself, the legislative and constitutional assembly powers they had and the only check remaining on his power after that time was the judiciary and now he swept aside that check. he has consolidated all power for thims and asked the people to trust him and guide egypt through this transitional period. >> protesters want him to step down. what do you see happening here? >> looks like neither side is prepared...
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egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a sunday night showing of the "twilight" move. police say his mother called authorities, afraid that her son had bought two rifles similar to the ones use in the colorado theater shooting. police say lammers admitted to that plan. >>> more on the developing situation in the middle east. could there be a ceasefire in the works, one that would include a guarantee from i that it would l not resume assassinations of high-ranking palestinian leaders and a ceasing of rockets from gaza? earlier on msnbc, the chief spokesman for prime minister netanyahu was skeptical of a truce.
egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a...
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can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters. israeli police confirm that an explosive device detonated but say it was not a suicide attack. the white house is calling the attack against israeli civilians outrage o outrageous. the united kingdom is condemning the, quote, shocking violence. the eight-day conflict between israel and hamas has claimed the lives of more than 130 palestinians and five israelis. despite hopes of a ceasefire, tuesday ended as the conflict's deadliest day. secretary clinton who rushed to the region to try to prevent an escalation of the conflict is in cairo to meet with egy
can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters....
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they say they did it for the safety of egypt. didn't want any clashes or confrontations like the ones we've seen over the past five days. andrea? >> ayman mohyeldin in cairo. e eight years after yasser arafat's death in a hospital, lingering questions about whether he was poisoned was put to the tett. had his body was exhumed from his mausoleum, tissue samples were taken. martin fletcher is back from ramallah and joins me from tel av aviv. what is the continuing concern here? is this rooted in real suspicion and do the french agree with this now as well? >> well, andrea, certainly rooted in real suspicion but that has been rife among palestinians since arafat died eight years ago. they're convinced he was murdered, not a natural death and where would the finger point but at israel. so israel by the way denies it. why would we kill arafat. we didn't kim him when we were at war with him when we had chances to. why would we when not fighting. the question of the polonium poisoning came from an al jazeera report this year which they
they say they did it for the safety of egypt. didn't want any clashes or confrontations like the ones we've seen over the past five days. andrea? >> ayman mohyeldin in cairo. e eight years after yasser arafat's death in a hospital, lingering questions about whether he was poisoned was put to the tett. had his body was exhumed from his mausoleum, tissue samples were taken. martin fletcher is back from ramallah and joins me from tel av aviv. what is the continuing concern here? is this...
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egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic is that when they are higher grade, longer range rockets being smuggled in in the last couple years, you don't have an egyptian partner like mubarak who is going to try to shut down those tunnels. israel has some real concerns and hamas has access to much better weaponry. >> it does. that also gets back to part of the purpose of what the israelis are doing. a, the israelis going after targets designed to destroy this capability that hamas has. so when you talk about collateral damage, it's because a lot of the rockets are put in highly populated areas.
egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic...
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hillary clinton will be flying to cairo where she will meet egypt's president. many hoped a truce would go into effect last night. it did not. gaza felt like a war zone throughout the evening. a lot is riding on the secretary's visit. >> ayman mohyeldin, thank you very much. >>> we want to go to the mayor of jerusalem. he joins us live from jerusalem over the phone. we want to thank you for the time joining us. we just mentioned the secretary of stated spending there with prime minister netanyahu in jerusalem yet, working to broker some kind of a deal, a cease-fire. how confident are you that this can even happen? >> it's very clear that it's short-term since the leadership of the hamas believes, like osama bin laden and al qaeda in death and destruction and their charter is to destroy israel. it's difficult to broker a deal with somebody that wants to kill you and they're not changing their charter. the challenge here is how do we make sure the hamas leadership understands that their motivation should be zero, very negative motivation to try and shoot indiscrim
hillary clinton will be flying to cairo where she will meet egypt's president. many hoped a truce would go into effect last night. it did not. gaza felt like a war zone throughout the evening. a lot is riding on the secretary's visit. >> ayman mohyeldin, thank you very much. >>> we want to go to the mayor of jerusalem. he joins us live from jerusalem over the phone. we want to thank you for the time joining us. we just mentioned the secretary of stated spending there with prime...
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the cia felt at that point that this was a protest as a result of what happened with the film with egypt. he clarified that after more information came in, there was not a protest. >> general petraeus' testimony comes today the morning after cia acting director michael morell and james clapper the director of national int intelligence went before members of congress in two other hearings and hours after attorney general eric holder defended the decision not to bring members of congress into the loop sooner. >> we follow the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> let's jump right in and bring in our friday morning political power panel. we have jackie kucinich political reporter for "usa today", democratic strategist blake zeb and msnbc contributor robert trainum. great to have you all here. we just heard from congressman king earlier today saying the general was asked right off the top whether the affair ha
the cia felt at that point that this was a protest as a result of what happened with the film with egypt. he clarified that after more information came in, there was not a protest. >> general petraeus' testimony comes today the morning after cia acting director michael morell and james clapper the director of national int intelligence went before members of congress in two other hearings and hours after attorney general eric holder defended the decision not to bring members of congress...
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. >> with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> how important -- >> let's be clear -- >> always had the deal between israel and egypt in the interest of both countries and our country. can we keep that deal? there are some architecture for peace there? >> we're going to try to keep that deal absolutely, but, remember, we're complicit in part of what happened. obama when he took george michel's resignation and basically moved dennis ross out of the white house, he doesn't put a new program on the table. and when america walks away from this peace process or an effort to bring the two sides together and really lay out a plan, violence kicks up. so we have a bit of complicity and you you are seeing right now not a strategic presidency from obama but a reactive presidency and that doesn't bode well for this. >> do you agree with that? if you're not moving forward you're moving backwards on the peace process? >> i think you plod forward or stay -- i'm not sure it's unraveling. i still think the amazing thing about all
. >> with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> how important -- >> let's be clear -- >> always had the deal between israel and egypt in the interest of both countries and our country. can we keep that deal? there are some architecture for peace there? >> we're going to try to keep that deal absolutely, but, remember, we're complicit in part of what happened. obama when he took george michel's resignation and basically moved dennis...
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, but this time it would be egypt as a repository guarantees. i'm not sure she's there for shuttle diplomacy and i'm not sure she's confident enough that there's going to be an agreement. i think it's almost unimaginable she wouldn't go. everyone else is there. she does have the capacity, i think, to press the israelis to give morsi, if diplomacy is running in the right direction, the political time and space to actually press hamas to stand down and maybe she needs to hear from morsi exactly what the status of these negotiations are and what hamas' requirements are. what she cannot do is put herself in the middle of an incorrect negotiation between israel and hamas, both for political reasons and for any other agendas items that the obama administration may have in mind further down the road. >> aaron david miller, thank you very much. you've been there -- >> thank you. >> you've had to deal with all of these questions. >> always a pleasure. >> many times. >> and imagine a peace corps for doctors. dr. vanessa kerry, the daughter of senator john
, but this time it would be egypt as a repository guarantees. i'm not sure she's there for shuttle diplomacy and i'm not sure she's confident enough that there's going to be an agreement. i think it's almost unimaginable she wouldn't go. everyone else is there. she does have the capacity, i think, to press the israelis to give morsi, if diplomacy is running in the right direction, the political time and space to actually press hamas to stand down and maybe she needs to hear from morsi exactly...
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egypt's foreign minister, as well. negotiators in cairo have been a leading force in the efforts towards brokering that cease fire. before egypt, secretary clinton stopped in the west bank to meet with palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas. her first stop was jerusalem where she met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu into the early hours of this morning, the secretary condemning the hamas rocket
egypt's foreign minister, as well. negotiators in cairo have been a leading force in the efforts towards brokering that cease fire. before egypt, secretary clinton stopped in the west bank to meet with palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas. her first stop was jerusalem where she met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu into the early hours of this morning, the secretary condemning the hamas rocket